Siemens mainframe displays Datensichtgerät 8160 8150

As a German, I’m interested in vintage Siemens devices.
Information and manuals are quite rare.
Displays are called Datensichtgerät (DS) in office-like German.
I think a standard one was 8150. There’s a photo in a Siemens 4004 brochure, but it’s not spectacular.
There were also 8151 and 8152.
For the TRANSDATA 810 series, there was an 8161 announced in 1975 for model 4004 and Unidata 7000 series (like 7.700), numbers had a dot now.
The only separate photo I found on the web is this (design award 1978), note the key

On that Design Award site, there are also later displays like this one in color with a typical Siemens keyboard with yellow keys, award 1984

I have been working with Transdata 9750 display devices and Siemens computers of the 7.5xx series with BS2000 from 1980 to 1985, but I can also remember older models. The key switch was well intentioned, but as far as I know nobody used it. Transdata was Siemens’ RDT concept, comparable to IBM’s SNA. The manuals that stayed with me are now in a private computer museum. But maybe I can answer one or the other question.

Thanks very much for your offer!
I currently don’t have any questions.

BS2000 is still active and (modern) manuals are available on fujitsu.
More interesting and rare is BS1000 and earlier BS for 4004.
But it’s sad that there are very few manuals online.
Some are for sale, mostly expensive and maybe most want to make profit rather than scan them and upload them.
Maybe it’s also due to copyright.

After finding the term Konzentrator, this is some sort of networking device (I think in the Siemens 6.610 manual) the Siemens device is 8161 (the display is 8160), I found some even better photos in color on stackexchange.

Next to this 8160 display, there’s also a b&w photo of an 8150 and a close-up of a screen and a 9750 (970 series). Taken from a brochure. I think, I haven’t found this before

Typical office scene with a lady (maybe early 80s). Note the orange phone and the small display on the background maybe a 8150 and the disk stations with the yellow line.

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Hello, I bought a 8160/67 terminal in the late 80’s in Germany. I still have the Keyboard and the 12 page “Einstellvorschrift” which i found inside the Display unit.

Hi Gunter, Hi @All,

I’m new here in this forum. I’m collecting SIEMENS stuff like MX300 (NSC and INTEL) or WX200.

A few weeks ago I’ve got a DSG-M8160-07, too. Is it possible to get a scanned copy from your “Einstellvorschrift”? I’ve to adjust in the Terminal, also the Vector Character System of the Terminal. Maybe there is something about the vector driver described in the document… :slight_smile:


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Hello Norbert,
Lucky you getting a TD8160, i wish i had never given mine away. Send me your Email so i can send you the “Einstellvorschrift” PDF (will not let me upload here) maybe it will be useful. I can also attach a picture of my keyboard, which was for the German (QWERTZ) market, yours seems to be for International use (QWERTY)"

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Hello Gunter,

here is my eMail Adress: <[redacted by moderator]>

Yes, my Terminal seems to be an international Version. But I’ll see what kind of Version it is when I’ve revised the PSU from the Terminal and adjusted the Vector Drivers. A picture with the German keyboard layout would be fine, but also other pictures from the Terminal are welcome. :slight_smile: